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Multinational babywearing support – Ergo Hipseat

We live in a multicultural country and one of the things that is guaranteed, for as long as there has been Canada Post, there have been relatives sending gifts internationally. Gifts that represent their love and their support for family members that they cannot see often due to the cost and the distance.

I myself was the recipient of these sorts of gifts when I was a kid, sweaters that would get here off season and wouldn’t fit by the time winter came, things you wouldn’t be caught dead in but that you had to put on and have a picture taken as “proof” that you loved it, and that the family appreciated the thought and effort behind it (and thank goodness there was no facebook, and that after that one pic, you could toss it into the donate pile without a second thought!). And later, cheap dollar store crap you could get at the shop down the street from where I lived, but was sent to you with love (and that was usually half-broken by the time it arrived).

That is why it is important to learn about baby carriers that are not sold in North America and to suspend your judgment when helping people out. My most recent introduction to a foreign carrier was when interviewing Sunmi Cha this past fall. Sumni is from Korea and her family had thoughtfully sent her a gift for her to use to show their love and for her to connect with her baby, an Ergo hip seat.



My first few thoughts on seeing it?

  • Hey, it’s like a Hippychick that’s been punked!
  • OMG this does not fall in-line with the hip safety marketing Ergo likes to use everywhere else. M-position, what?
  • Ooooooh, let’s play!

And that last one is what stuck with me, because it is exactly what I did.

What’s the first thing you do when you see a carrier like this? Pull from your experience. I’ve been around a long time, so the base was exactly like a Hippychick I still have cached in my basement.1 Then it’s like Ergo put on some romantic music, sent it on a blind date with a Playtex Hip Hammock and these two carriers made a baby! Or maybe they just took a style that was already popular in Asian and spun their own version of it out there (not as much fun, but likely the truth as Lillebaby has one too, Three in One and Pognae for example).2


What if you haven’t been around for as long as babywearing dinosaurs have roamed the earth? Read the label. Yeah, I know, your Korean is likely as good as mine, but thankfully this one was fully bilingual English / Korean. What if the label is unreadable and not in script you can handily copy into your computer browser? Reach out to your international babywearing peeps and start asking questions (I got some good resources with that one – thanks Heather and Theresa!)3

The important thing to focus on here from the label is the BABY FALLING OUT warning: Infants can fall out through a wide opening or out of the hip seat. Essentially, is the baby TOO small for the carrier and the carrier base?



This fall warning is very important, especially since if you know your babywearing history, you’ll know that Baby Bjorn had to issue a recall of their front pack carriers for this exact reason.4 It lead to them making a small, but critical change to their carriers. They added a small loop and button to narrow the leg opening to prevent smaller babies from falling out of them. Yep, some babies will fall out through the leg openings if they are too wide.

Unfortunately, Ergo has not made any changes or adjustments to this carrier to provide a similar feature. And let’s not point fingers exclusively at one company, none of the others seem to have something in place either. So, Ergo, baby – let’s talk!! I’d really like to see all the companies who sell this thing make a modification to prevent what is a known fall hazard, moreover, one that from my perspective is a modification to the design that is relatively easy to do. So uh, hop hop, let’s get moving, am I right?

The other important warning is the SUFFOCATION hazard. If the baby is too low in the carrier and their face is pressed against the parent’s body or clothing, they might die.

The other parts of this warning label are just ridiculous. Essentially, if you follow them to the letter, you are basically asking that only trees, street lamps on poles and other inflexible objects wear the baby. And given they ask all the zippers be closed, essentially they are inadvertently saying that the base never be used separately from the rest of the carrier. It’s all rather incoherent and this is where you need to step in to intepret and explain this to your client. Once again, the important thing is to use your judgment as a babywearing consultant and have the parent put the child in the carrier. Assess:

  • The size of the child. If the child is too small, then this carrier cannot be used until they are older.
  • The stability of the carrier: Can it adjust tightly to the wearers waist? Important to look at since the hipseat is inflexible and hard plus not everyone is really good at attaching velcro waists securely enough.
  • What happens when the parent moves or bends over with the baby in the carrier? Is the carrier nice and tight around the child, does the baby slip around? If the answer is yes to any of those, and this is the ONLY carrier the parents own, emphasize the part on the label that states you should put an arm around the baby. Otherwise, if they have the means, or another carrier, talk about waiting until the baby can grow into it.

Is this a carrier I would choose for myself? No, probably not. But that’s not the point of being a babywearing consultant – it’s not about what I would chose. Your first goal should always be about supporting parents to babywear as safely as possible with what they have. The only real dangers are:

  • Baby too small and will fall through the leg openings.
  • Baby too short and is not visible.
  • Baby is improperly supported and if you are inattentive, the back and neck will slump and the baby’s airway will compress. And let’s face it, we get busy as parents and distracted. So airway compression is important.

After an assessment, if the carrier is truly dangerous – at this point, you need to be compassionate, listen to their story, and tell them the truth.

“It’s really nice to have gotten a great gift from your parents so that you know your baby is cared both by them and by you. But you can’t use this (right now /ever) because your baby is (choose one of the above).”



Débora Rodrigues has been teaching babywearing since August 2008. The Hippychick is part of her rental collection which is available to those living her hometown of Ottawa, Ontario.

Sunmi and I originally met October 15, 2016, and we spoke for about four hours. The first article is called Growing up Korean which was followed by Babywearing Redux. The next article about Sunmi’s journey is called Becoming Canadian, where she shares how she moved to Canada and then stayed.

1. Hippychicks are still available for sale in the U.K. and can be seen on their website. I scored mine at a community garage sale here in town. ↩
2. Here is a Korean blog discussing the major hipseat brands available there. I always find it interesting to see how these things are sold in other countries, using marketing that just wouldn’t work for a Canadian or Western market. If you scroll down, you too can also have a giggle at their claims of how a hard seat with narrow leg openings supports the M-position. The MATH is just wrong people. ↩
3. Check out the KOREAN Lillebaby website, Pognae’s website and the Ergo Baby website. You will need to use a translation tool to understand it.↩
4. Baby Bjorn carriers were recalled in 1999. Recall is archived here on Health Canada’s website.↩

Babywearing Redux – Sunmi Cha

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Sunmi Cha is a Canadian originally from Korea. I was privileged enough to be invited into her home and hear her story. She wore her siblings growing up, to read about it click here.

What is it like to start babywearing again?

I was actually surprised that there’s a school of people that invest themselves in all these wraps. I did not know much about it.

I have watched a Korean documentary called Secret of traditional parenting.1 It was talking about how good it is to wear their baby. So the baby can observe the environment, learn social interaction from you, from being on your back all the time and it gives you lots of mobility. And you know babywearing, we all know how many benefits it offers. So it talks all about it. And the documentary was talking about how popular the podaegi is in Europe right now. How a lot of moms are looking into podaegi. After watching the documentary, I thought it is the best carrier in the world that’s why other people are looking into it.

In Korea sometimes there is propaganda happening. They try. By telling you that this part of our culture is the best, we are smart people, what we have is blah-blah-blah.

I think the podaegi is genius. It’s very practical. You took a blanket and put a strap on it. It is practical because it offers torso support instead of relying on the strength of the shoulders.

This comes in different length. There is a shorter one, this is a medium length one. Because every woman is of different height. Because some women are pretty petite.

It’s the height of it, I didn’t know, oh what I am learning!

It hides your figure, mothers feel more comfortable they don’t have to worry about what they are wearing underneath. And traditionally, Asian women they don’t wear revealing clothes, they are very conservative. For that it really helps, you don’t have to worry about what’s showing, about what’s not showing.

But the thing is, it’s pretty thick, but I was using it in summer time, I was carrying him in the front and lights outthis doesn’t stick to your skin, and somehow it felt really breezy and cool.

So you found it insulated against the hot weather?

Yeah, so he loved it. He was falling asleep in it. I couldn’t use the other, the Boba wrap. It [the podaegi] was so easy, put it on and wrap tight, that’s it.

Now there are many different versions, you can attach the strap on an angle and wrap it around your shoulders.

The thing is that these are really cheap. I paid $35.

That’s really affordable. So you came to Ottawa, set up your practice and started your family. So he’s four months old?

Yes, he’s four and a half, he’s 20 weeks.

When I got pregnant, my sisterhip seat from gmarket website wanted to give me a gift, what could it be? So I told her to send me a baby carrier. I saw my sister carrying the baby all the time, she used the Ergo hip seat. My sister was using it and she found it very useful for a toddler especially because the hip seat part is so convenient. So I searched Amazon and they didn’t sel lthis specific one here and I read that they only released this in Korea.

I didn’t know Ergo made them, it must be only for Asia. They have products that are not available here.

Only for Korea. I thought, “Is it because it is less safe?” Is this why they don’t release in Canada?2

It’s perception. It’s a different market.

But the podaegi isn’t expensive, so why so few use it?

It’s the fashionable perspective. I was wondering why don’t they use better looking fabric?

When I was looking to buy podaegi. I searched hard to find something neutral, no bears or dots, or super colourful. Like bright blue, or bright pink I didn’t like it. I still couldn’t get rid of the monkey, but this is acceptable. I didn’t like the ones that are made of so infantile looking fabric, I chose this one because of that.


damn monkey1

I sometimes write on Korean online community. I asked there why people don’t use podaegi much. People said that it is partly because of the look and some said they found that structured carriers are easier to use. There were lots of new carriers were on the market that I wasn’t aware.

So people use more of their structured carrier. Ergo is very popular.

Ergo is everywhere. What about wraps?

That was another thing versus a wrap. Wraps are so beautiful, they use different colours. A lot of moms collect the wraps because of its beauty.

I got the woven wrap, the purple one. I was surprised at the price! It was over $200 for a long strand of fabric. I sew, so I tried to make it on my own and went to a fabric store. I tried to search for fabric that was similar to what I saw. I read online that I am supposed to look for jacquard woven and diamond woven. I asked the people at the store but they had no idea. Every fabric is woven was what they said!

Every fabric is woven. Except for knit. Exactly.

It wasn’t very helpful, but they had lots of items in the sales stash, rayon, 100% cotton. It was summertime and I had a Boba wrap, it was too hot. I was looking for something that was lighter fabric for the wrap and also that it breathes. I was looking at pillowrayon, though I realized that rayon is synthetic, even though it is made from natural pulp. Okay so no rayon.

I wanted to buy something with a one way stretch like Wrapsody hybrid. So I bought 5 meters of fabric with a one way stretch. I made half of it into a ring sling and then I tried to wrap him with the other half. This fabric was too slippery and wasn’t easy to pull, it was awkward to put it on. It wasn’t as soft as a woven wrap, it was bulky, so I made the rest of the fabric into a pillow cover.

Oh that looks beautiful!

I also got this carrier cover from my sister.

Oh whoa – look at that! It’s got ears on the hood! It’s so cute, I love it. It’s got little pockets for your hands.

This attracts good attention when I put this on him and go out. It’s a whole set with ergo hip seat. I use the cover all the time.


carrier cover

Sunmi and I originally met October 15, 2016, and we spoke for about four hours. This article is a condensed and edited version of our interview. Her story, like many, was so interesting it became a three part series. The first is called Growing up Korean. The next article is called A journey to Canadian, where she shares how she moved to Canada and then stayed.

Sunmi Cha is a full trained and license naturopathic doctor in Ottawa. Visit her website here.

1. The first installment of the documentary of The Secret of Traditional Parenting can be found here. Here is the link to the second and third installment.↩
2. The Ergo hip seat is available for sale on Gmarket in Korea.↩